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Inventory #210812-20.
Silver, 28.2 mm, 7.44 g. Struck under the authority of Johann Theodor of Bavaria, Prince-Bishop of Liège.
Ex-Jean Elsen et ses Fils Auction #142, Lot #938 (part of), 14 September 2019.
I sold this coin on eBay in the summer of 2020, and the buyer returned it, saying it was a counterfeit, with the apparent implication that it was some kind of modern counterfeit.
I didn't question his assumptions and promptly refunded his money, though I very firmly disagree with the notion that this coin is any kind of modern fake. The coin looks consistent with pictures I've seen of others of this somewhat crudely-struck type, as best I can tell, but admittedly I do not know for certain.
It is entirely possible the would-be eBay buyer saw something I do not see. It does seem to be slightly underweight based on the specs given on Numista.
I acquired it as a part of Lot #938 in the Jean Elsen et ses Fils Auction #142, on 14 September 2019, so it came directly from Belgium as part of a large lot of older coins and tokens of Liège, from the leading auction firm dealing in such material. If it is in fact counterfeit, I am much more likely to believe it could be a contemporary counterfeit from the 1700s. But I'm not sure I accept that theory, either. Really, I don't know. The coin looks fine to me. But I could be wrong.
Update: Luchtaine from France confirms it as authentic, reportedly from some experience (see comment section below). Just as the Jean Elsen pedigree suggested all along. I now have some vindication in my belief that the eBay buyer who returned it was simply mistaken. But I will leave that information in the description above for the sake of disclosure.
Fuente : https://www.cointalk.com/threads/belgium...
Colección : Sold Items